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I have never really appreciated what it's like for the city folk, now I'm using the melb obs scoes, 8" refrac & 12" reflect I see the massive effect light pollution has. They are quality scopes but you need real good nights to see it
I don't feel bad though when I walk out my back door, pull out the 80 mm f15 let it cool for 2mins then immed go above 150x, does it quickly & easily
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