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I all I'm new to this site. I was reading the above post and thought I'd add a comment. I just got a new 12 inch collapsible dob. Saxon because it was $400 cheaper than the sw. Yes they are identical. I must say it's awesome. A bit heavy and hard to get in and out of the car and house however I'm using it within 5 mins. My heq5 and scope takes forever to carry out everything and set up. I would absolutely recomend getting one. And it's easy to colomate, about 3 mins. Cheers
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