What make/model is your refractor?
8 scopes? Some people need to see a therapist for their addiction me thinks
I reckon NGC 247 would be visible in a 4" scope under dark skies. But any trace of light pollution will kill it owing to it's low urface brightness. Heck, my 4.5" newtonian gave amazing views of Eta Carina Nebula, M42 etc under pitch black skies near Mildura.