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Old 19-07-2013, 12:51 PM
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Caveat emptor

Originally Posted by mental4astro View Post
I had a look through the site, and came across something odd. They sell the Argo Navis system under the name of "JMI NGC-superMAX":

I've sent Gary at Wildcard about this. The really concerning thing is the price this mob is selling it at - way below local price from Gary himself! Will be very interesting his reply! As soon as I get a reply from Gary, I'll post it here.

Thanks Alex.

Just to make it clear to everyone reading or Googling this thread, the web site is a scam.

Their purported address is -
Jalan Gajah Mada 104-107
Jakarta 11140

However, as someone has noted, they are not at this address.

In any case, there are some simple rules in life and I will make this as blunt and
as crude as possible to emphasize the point.

1. Never go to a brothel in Lagos Nigeria and have unprotected sex.
2. Never buy anything online out of countries such as Indonesia and never ship
to a buyer there unless you know them personally and trust them.

Indonesia is a major center for international credit card fraud. If you provide your
credit card details to a site such as this there, then it is stolen. If you do a wire transfer
you will never get your money back.

I have to hand it to the creators of though
as they have gone to a lot of trouble. I've traveled to countries all around the world
and seen a lot of great attempts at scams. But as far as scams go, I do in particular
love the touch of the "Gift Certificate" feature of this web site.

Almost certainly the creators of the web site will have other web sites targeting entirely
different markets.

Best Regards

Gary Kopff
Managing Director
Wildcard Innovations Pty. Ltd.
20 Kilmory Place, Mount Kuring-Gai
NSW. 2080. Australia
Phone +61-2-9457-9049
Fax +61-2-9457-9593

Last edited by gary; 19-07-2013 at 01:39 PM.
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