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Whoa, hadnt heard about this movie, but just watched Guy Pearce on 'The Project' and they showed a clip. This is a prequel to the fabulously scary 'Alien' and directed by Ridley Scott!! Bring it on. :thumbsup:
10-05-2012, 08:29 PM
Empire magazine has a write-up on this
Haven't read it yet looks cool
10-05-2012, 08:58 PM
Your not the only one..After watching the trailer
there seems to be lots of visual links to the orginal Alien..It would be so nice if Ridley Scott can place the last piece of the puzzle to the Alien genre.
10-05-2012, 09:14 PM
And you call yourself a sic-fi buff Liz. ;)
This is tipped to be a big one for us Sci Fi tragics. Definitely on my short list of movies to see Liz. I got excited for a moment it was close when I say your post :sadeyes:
:lol: yes, very disappointed in myself. Seem to be the last person to know of any news these days. :help:
11-05-2012, 09:11 AM
:thumbsup: Yep I'm in .
11-05-2012, 10:25 AM
Looks great, can't wait to see it on the big screen :)
From what I gather is it's not so much a sequel or prequel to the Alien franchise that follows along the same storyline or timeframe as it was originally concieved but it is set in the same universe. They made a concerted effort to move it away from the Alien story.
Plus if things go to plan this movie might even get it's own sequel.
I'm looking forward to it a lot.
11-05-2012, 05:26 PM
I always felt that the scariest thing about the whole Alien film genre was that it is certain (I reckon, but that's just moi) that something like it exists somewhere in the Universe, maybe close :eyepop:
11-05-2012, 08:42 PM
Maybe in your fridge??:lol:
13-05-2012, 07:45 AM
What about the Ex! traterrestrial:eyepop:
13-05-2012, 07:51 AM
Two months to go ... tick.. tick .. tick.. :party:
ah, 2 months, was wondering :)
16-05-2012, 12:30 PM
On my list for sure, got some Gold Class tickets to use as this seems an good film to use them on. Xmas gift from mum-in-law, gives big comfy seats, food and wine while you watch. All I need is a Phaser in hand to keep them alien bugs off. :scared2:
18-05-2012, 11:08 AM
+1 here too. So glad Ridley Scott is doing it!
18-05-2012, 12:01 PM
Looks good. :)
18-05-2012, 02:02 PM
how good is the trailer!?
Next date night with the Mrs, its my choice, she can choose the food. Even though it was my choice last time (Battleship):D
04-06-2012, 10:31 PM
:thumbsup: Opening in our local cinima tomorrow night 5th june , 7.30pm ,, gads I am working ..:sadeyes: , It will be a cool movie , and answer a lot of Q's .
Please no spoilers .. OK ? :question: .
04-06-2012, 10:42 PM
04-06-2012, 11:00 PM
:( please no ...
So you have seen it ?
a little info , like is it any good ?? is aloud ...:thumbsup: .
I see this movie being one you have to see many times to catch all its meanings and messages , typical Ridley Scott .
I confess to not liking blade runner the first :screwy: time I seen it at the movies , (yea I know , silly me ) but many years later and owning a DVD copy and watched it lots more its a reall , really , good ,, deep , movie , he knows how to do that well , does old Ridley .
05-06-2012, 05:56 AM
Can't wait for the movie to come out on DVD. But then it looks like it might be worth the 2 hour drive each way to the cinema.
05-06-2012, 12:14 PM
It started off as a sequel to the Alien series, but apparently then went somewhere completely different. With Ridley there are more hits than misses, I hope this one is no different.
05-06-2012, 11:34 PM
Itching to see it. Really love my Sci Fi type of movies.
06-06-2012, 01:04 AM
Looking forward to this one.
Not sure i'll be able to drag my wife along though as she isn't into Sci-Fi. My nieces think i'm 'tragic' when i go to see movies on my own.
I often prefer to go on my own, esp at morning sessions, you havent got friends chatting in your ear while you are enjoying the movie. :rolleyes:
Yes, not long now, and look forward to it. :D
06-06-2012, 08:16 AM
only way for we introverts to enjoy movies - by ourselves.
06-06-2012, 08:49 AM
I only go by myself these days too, funnily-enough. :lol: I don't mind though - I'm seeing Prometheus from a nice comfy leather recliner, with a tall cold beer and selection of tapas on the table next to me - all courtesy of a Gold Pass cinema. Luvverly :)
Booked for 9:30 Thursday evening...
Hmmm. Ridley Scott has directed thirty or so films, and of those I've liked only two or three. That's why I'll be sitting back and awaiting the reviews before coughing up the moola to see this one! :)
06-06-2012, 05:18 PM
Reviews, shmeviews. Looks like a fun movie, and spectacular no matter what. I'll leave reviews to those who wait to see only the perfect movie. ;)
06-06-2012, 06:59 PM
I'm with you Chris, forget the reviews. I never take any notice of reviews anyway. When I go to the flicks I leave my brain at the door and just go along for the ride.
I have seen many movies with poor reviews that I thoroughly enjoyed.
Well I've liked only two or three of his thirty-odd films, so the odds aren't great. If a lot of unhappy people are leaving the theatres where it's playing I'll give it a miss, but I will watch it if everyone raves.
06-06-2012, 09:11 PM
Who cares what anyone else thinks? If I had listened to others, I would have missed a lot of movies I actually enjoyed, when others thought they weren't good. Conversely, films others have raved about I thought weren't as good as everyone said. Classic example, everyone raved about Australia, which I thought was a big joke!
I go to a movie with low expectations, so I am never dissapointed and often surprised. I go to be entertained! The only time I thought was a total waste of two hours was for Australia, Eagle Eye and Shrek 3! So that isn't bad over the paste ten years.
07-06-2012, 12:30 AM
Saw it tonight. Very much enjoyed it.
Wow, sorry. I wasn't trying to enrage anyone. :(
07-06-2012, 01:23 PM
Hi BPO (do you have a name?)
The problem, that sticks out for me, in relying on critics reports to make my own mind up from is that I believe there is a terrible bias amongst them against sci-fi as a genre. I think that you actually need to like sci-fi before you become qualified to judge it. Most professional critics, I think, don't.
07-06-2012, 07:16 PM
Saw Prometheus today in 3D. If you are an "Alien" fan, it will answer a couple of questions, but it did raise another question, for me.
Was it worth seeing? Definite yes, for me anyway. Was it a "great" movie, well....not really:question: However, it was a good movie and well done, for the most part, but I definitely wouldn't rave about it.
I quite enjoyed it though and it had some really stunning visuals, but then we expect no less, since Avatar raised the bar in this regard.
A few small things wrong with it, but I won't give anything away, as I am probably just being anal. :P I have no doubt these these will be discussed at a later date.
So, how many "stars" out of ten.... I give it a 7/10.
Definitely worth seeing in 3D.
07-06-2012, 07:33 PM
Glad you didn't let anything slip there Peter, I'm due to see it at 9:30...
Feet up, hand wrapped around tall coldie and brain off. Check.
Still sounds worth seeing .. 'The project' have a couple of its stars on tomorrow night.
07-06-2012, 07:42 PM
If your brain is off, you will really enjoy it. As I said, definitely worth seeing, but then, I didn't listen to all the hype anyway!
07-06-2012, 10:03 PM
Wasn't a bad movie but the previews are way over hyped lol. It leaves you waiting for the next movie to follow on which sucks, though isn't the case always. I give it 8/10 if your not into sci fi you would probably say 6/10
08-06-2012, 12:02 AM
Gee we're cruel when it comes to rating movies, eh? LOL, but I disagree. 6/10? I think it was better than that. If you aren't into sci-fi you wouldn't go to see it, so I don't see that scoring it from that perspective is fair. I thought it was very good. It entertained me for the full time it was on screen and I think that it actually did an admirable job in setting up its eventual sequel. Was it as complete, as a sci-fi movie, as "Alien"? No. Probably not. Was it worth seeing? Yes, I believe so. 8/10? Probably bang-on.
08-06-2012, 01:30 AM
Glad to hear you enjoyed it Chris. It is a good movie and it does the job of keeping you engaged. :)
08-06-2012, 09:07 AM
Here is 13 minutes of it.... :scared2: ... in IMAX .
Prometheus IMAX 13 Minutes of Haunting Slow Motion - Movie Trailer HD
I'll be going to see it .
08-06-2012, 11:03 AM
I've got tickets to watch it at Imax tomorrow night. Looking forward to it!
09-06-2012, 08:17 AM
I saw it last night and it's absolutely superb in how it hints at the Alien lore and leaves you wanting more. I didn't get bored at all during it and I had no disappointments. It gets you thinking and some things were different to expectations (for me) but it was all very good.
09-06-2012, 05:19 PM
I had to kill 3 hours due to my daughter doing an uni exam.
So I watched the movie in the X'treme theatre in 3d...
Took the morning session and the 1st thing I noticed was all the middle aged men like myself which were all sifi geeks..
I felt right at home! All Alien fans I reckon..
Enjoyed the movie very much..like kustard said.."leaves you wanting more"
PS Avoid the face huggers..
09-06-2012, 05:42 PM
i am seeing it in 4 hours!
10-06-2012, 06:19 AM
Saw it last night in 3D, real cool. I like the way it connected to the first Aliens movie and it gave some 'answers' but then it posed more 'questions'.
Made me jump in my seat once in particular but certainly a movie to make you think. Glad I had a couple of glasses of wine beforehand ...
Will there be a sequel to answer\pose more questions ??
10-06-2012, 07:08 AM
Saw it in 3d yesterday. Not quite what I expected but worth watching. I wonder if there will be a sequel?
10-06-2012, 09:14 PM
I saw it this afternoon, very comfortably in Deluxe (the local equivalent of Gold Class).
It struck me as something George Lucas could have made (Edit: no, strike that, it's too gory for Lucas). There are quite a few holes in the plot and, several times, it left me thinking, "why didn't they just ..."? I guess I forgot to suspend my disbelief as others suggested. Stunning visually, of course, and it answered a couple of questions hanging over from the Alien franchise.
There are shortcomings, but it's enjoyable nonetheless. It is sci-fi after all.
11-06-2012, 05:07 PM
I am glad to see someone else thinks the same. There was no continuity from the ending of this movie to the first Alien movie, unless I missed something. In the Alien movie the "big dude" was found at the controls with a big hole in his chest, in Prometheus......you know. Probably me just be anal! :D
11-06-2012, 08:14 PM
No..not anal..a very valid point. The movie was somewhat entertaining but I was disappointed with the story line...I expected more from director Ridley Scott given his previous works.
I saw it yesterday. As for the visuals, the words phenomenal, mind-blowing, and awesome come to mind - hands down definitely raises the bar again for a sci-fi movie. However, I also agree with some comments that the screenplay was not the best, with some plot holes, and I'm very surprised that Ridley seems to have let that go by. All in all, I still enjoyed it immensely (!), but wonder and very much hope that it will do well enough to enable the obvious sequel. Fox
11-06-2012, 09:42 PM
Can't say I share the tone of enthusiasm for this movie that most others in this thread feel for it.
I thought the plot was paper thin, and what there was of it didn't make any sense if you give it two minutes of thought.
The script writing wasn't even B grade.
There was no tension, just occasional, random acts of violence/mayhem, none of which built suspense or added to the story. ie) The zombie scene... why oh why?
The acting for the most part was just simply lame... ie) Shaw walking in after her DIY medical procedure covered in blood doesn't illicit concern from her crew mates other than an ironic comment from Dave.... and then they're all off on another field trip! :screwy: Never mind the impossibility of running around with severed abdominal muscles.... Oh, you just removed an hostile biological weapon/alien from your body... that's nice dear, we'll just leave that thing to chill out in the captains quarters while we go for a little stroll.
There was one illogical and unnecessary sequence after another..
The casting was bizarre... Guy Pearce... seriously?
The choice of characters made no sense... redneck, punk scientists with attitude and discipline problems... even if such characters existed, would they be chosen for a trillion dollar space mission?.. not plausible.
I could go on, but suffice it to say; if you saw this movie without knowing it had the 'Alien or Ridley Scott' name attached to it, you would most likely think that it was a lemon, all be it a spectacularly presented one. If you took away the $200m CGI budget as well, I think it would fairly deserve to be called a steaming pile of dog extract.
6 out of 10 is being generous. 4 for the CGI, 1 each for Rapace & Fassbender being professional in the face of such adversity.
11-06-2012, 09:45 PM
It's hard to talk about this without giving away some of the story, but as far as the "big dude" goes, we really don't know what the heck happens to him after he takes off.... ;)
11-06-2012, 10:18 PM
One further comment on 3D CGI... I found its use in this movie disappointing in some parts. 3D adds to the sense of realism if it is realistic. It detracts from the sense of realism if it is not. Rendering planets as spherical objects is not realistic, it just makes them look artificial. Foreground objects (such as space craft) presented in this context are perceptually reduced to the scale of miniature toys.
Note to Ridley Scott, George Lucas et al)
Large objects at huge distances look huge and distant when they are focussed at infinity and have zero stereopsis effect.
12-06-2012, 12:38 PM
:lol: It dont matter ,, I am going to see this , as Clive explalns so well , this big pile of dog DOODOO !!
And now I am really intrigued Chris, The big man ??? :rofl:.
Im seeing it tomorrow in the big bad 3D ,, yippe !.
Night shifts over so I am going to the 12.05 pm showing , hopefully it will be quiet :question: .
12-06-2012, 02:27 PM
I agree Clive, if one is going to choose scientists for a "deep space" mission, you would think that they would need to have a backbone! :P
Nevertheless, plot aside and the obvious holes, I still enjoyed it, but then I saw it with my brain mostly switched off anyway. :D
Visually, it was quite stunning in places and I may go see it again in IMAX.
12-06-2012, 02:29 PM
Brian, knowing your tastes for Sci-Fi, you will really enjoy it, even better when not expecting too much. I may go see it again in imax.
Cheers Peter :)
12-06-2012, 02:51 PM
Seeing it tonight...yeww... I was at a wake recently for a guy thyat died in a helicopter crash at my airfield. James cameron was there along with other notables... I had quite a lengthy conversation with him that started with me thanking him for Aliens...One of the greats I reckon..
12-06-2012, 03:58 PM
Clive - LOL... I agree with most of your sentiments, I do... really! Yep - full 'o holes. Only, the thing is... it ain't a documentary - it's just light entertainment. I used to get similarly stirred up like yourself, but I couldn't careless these days. As peter says... leave brain off, turn eyes and ears up to full. Lean back. Have fun.
12-06-2012, 04:08 PM
The old man and I love sic fi's , we would play a game called count the TE's ( technical errors). He would always find more being a physics teacher.. Lol.. Many a heated scientific debate would ensue...
12-06-2012, 04:51 PM
;) I'm all excited now ,, Thanks Peter . I tried not to get .
:thumbsup:. so its not dog doodoo ?
And the bigg MAN? :lol: . I will see for myself ....
Dont tell me , all will be revieled tomorrow , with brain turned off ...in stunning 3D ,, :help:.
12-06-2012, 04:58 PM
There's an entire web site devoted to ...
Insultingly Stupid Movie Physics (http://www.intuitor.com/moviephysics/)
12-06-2012, 05:18 PM
:shrug: I hope there is no flaming cars , sparkie bullets or attractive glass in Prometheous ? Damm , I am looking forward to Dog doodoo , and bigg Men?
But there will be visable laser beams???:confused2: ..
:rofl: :thumbsup: .
Thanks astro bot , good read .
12-06-2012, 05:25 PM
:) yer old man going with you? ,My brother and I do a similar thing , its fun and its amazing how deep we can get in a good session of picking holes in hollywood . :lol: .SIFI .
Peter would love a good sess. with us ??? Peter ?
Enjoy tonight Starcrazy , as I will tomorrow , remember NO SPOILERS ALOUD :eyepop: .
12-06-2012, 05:57 PM
Yep, sure is...Dont worry, no spoilers from me...:thumbsup:
ooh, ooh, sounds great still .... I never see the holes, enjoy Brian and all. Doh ... the big dude????? i will know him when I see him. :D
12-06-2012, 07:03 PM
:shrug: Ohh he might plant things in your chest,,? ,, ;) Yucky .
I dont like this big fella , chest planter? :question:/
12-06-2012, 10:33 PM
Yep, true that Brian, nothin like pickin' holes in Hollywood. Maybe we should all get together and write the plots for the film makers.......whoa......be way too expensive me thinks! :P
13-06-2012, 08:28 AM
:D 4 hours till I see it ,,:hi: ...
13-06-2012, 08:33 AM
Saw it tonight with a couple of mates. I liked it a lot.
I read the reviews here before I saw it and TBH I didn't relate any to what I saw. It made perfect sense to me, I didn't see any holes in the story line and it bridged nicely to the alien sequel. There are a lot of subtle hints all around if you pay close attention so will definitely get it on BD and have another good look.
There's obviously another branch opened to the engineers planet and that would make for another cool movie and answer a few things.
13-06-2012, 09:09 AM
Saw it last night too.. Bloody fantastic.. Visually stunning in 3d.. There's a couple of things I don't get, bit I'll wait until evryones seen it and hopefully someone smarter than me can explain it.
Well worth the price of admition... :)
13-06-2012, 11:13 AM
saw it last night great movie but confusing storyline
13-06-2012, 12:06 PM
We saw it on Sunday and really enjoyed it in 2D one theory about the Prometheus plot quite interesting jury is out with me. :shrug:
13-06-2012, 02:13 PM
Haven't seen the movie yet but got the ring tone of the scream!!!!!!!
13-06-2012, 04:06 PM
:thumbsup: Oh well I am with you all who..... LOVED!! it , really great movie in 3D, a few suprises when viewing it in 3D , I totally loved it :D .
And 12.05 on a wednesday arvo is a great time to go to the movies , there was 6 of us in the whole theater , cool .
I will definatly get it on DVD when it comes out .
13-06-2012, 07:07 PM
Has Mike taken off?
I'll miss his excellent images...
13-06-2012, 07:26 PM
Knew you would Brian. :) I went on the day of release, in the middle of the day, and there was only about a dozen people. Only time to see a movie!
13-06-2012, 08:12 PM
Awesome ... wasn't it. :face:
Flash ... :scared2:
13-06-2012, 08:55 PM
yes, that was exactly what i thought as well (glad some felt it was good though)...
looked spectacular, but in all honesty its probably the first time i would agree with the critics on a SF movie (which i generally love, having said that i had seen a run of duds leading up to it, the nazis on the other side of the moon thing, etc).
i am hoping they might eventually do some more PK Dick...
radio free albemuth, valis, etc... at least they will start with a good scifi story
(i think their remaking total recall, i saw a poster for it somewhere recently)...
i'll see it again on dvd in the future, maybe it will "click" then
13-06-2012, 10:32 PM
Yes Colin, there has been some duds lately, but then I personally think that films like Avatar (which I saw 5 times at the theatre) has raised the bar in terms of good sci-fi.
The worst duds for me are:
Battle for Los Angeles (this was just dreadful movie).
Skyline (too a much lesser extent, it was fair but below par).
I didn't see Battleship, as I thought that it would be fairly bad, judging from the storyline. However, I think that the biggest surprise in sci-fi movies in recent years was District 9. Strange movie but it turned out to be a great flick, I loved it.
Prometheus, raised the bar again.
13-06-2012, 11:04 PM
How about the 2008 remake of "The Day the Earth Stood Still"? That must surely rate as one of the worst sci-fi movies of all time.
14-06-2012, 09:24 AM
didn't mind skyline, one thing though i thought prometheus had an element of "melancholia" (an artsy abstraction thing) which was new in horror Scifi. That worked really well in Gattaca and Solaris with those breathtakingly poignant phillip glass soundtracks.
anyway i'll watch it again in the future, sometimes its a mood thing on the day you see it.
i dont like prequels... they generally dont get done well.
14-06-2012, 11:26 AM
Maybe its just im older now, but back in the day sci fi's were of a generally higher callibre. Storyline wise. Dare I mention the star wars trilogy. I dont think ive met anyone yet that didn't love the originals.
2001, 2010.. Two of the greats in my opinion. Both had a 'vibe' throughout. helped by very accurate technical aspects, no sound in space etc.
But a huge thing, and I believe one of the major differences to later sci fi's, was the depth in the characters. All the characters in the original Alien and Aliens, had a real sense of ' realness' about them. The audience could relate easily to them and their plights. This is IMHO one of the reasons why Avatar was so successful, sure the visuals were mind blowing and certainly changed things forever, but the main characters certainly had depth.
These days and certainly in Prometheus, I can pretty much pick who is going to be alien fodder within the first few minutes. It seems they try to add depth to the characters but dont quite seem to get there, at least with the sacrificial characters.
My 2 cents
Still struggling to raise any enthusiasm for this one. Ridley Scott misses way more than he hits, and the reviews by professionals and public alike are pretty ambivalent, for the most part. Mind you, I thought Avatar was a sick joke...
14-06-2012, 02:43 PM
Simple - don't go and see it. Done! :lol:
14-06-2012, 04:21 PM
You're right Colin, sometimes it is a mood thing. Also, sometimes a movie can be much better second time around. I remember seeing the remake of "Hitchhikers" and I didn't like it, but then I saw it again as an in-flight movie, and loved it and subsequently added it to my Sci-Fi collection. I suspect Skyline may be like that, as it was just ok the first time round. But, nothing will redeem Battle for Los Angeles....it was dreadful; it is certainly the worst sci-fi film I have seen for a long time.
14-06-2012, 09:43 PM
i think battleship was much the same, takes more out of you than it puts in (although points for rihanna for giving it a go).
.monsters was a bit of an odd one, if anyone saw it, i like those mellow atmospheric probally more than the blast them (getting a bit overcooked perhaps), maybe thats an age thing too?
15-06-2012, 05:52 AM
See it didn't like it. Drove 2 hours each way to see it.
15-06-2012, 08:49 AM
Prometheus was probably one of the worst movies I have seen, it was a joke.. The only thing that kept me watching was the shred of hope that there may be a good twist in the ending..
That may be a little unfair coming from a trained scientist, but I do generally enjoy sci-fi and fantasy (I am a huge fan of Stargate and Star Wars). Without going into too much detail, I'll name 4 major gripes I had with this movie:
- 'Creme of the crop' scientist are complete idiots
- Severely lacking internal consistency
- Scientific aspects and jargon plain wrong
- Thinly hidden Christian agenda
15-06-2012, 12:30 PM
I thought it to be more philosophical than dogmatic, so I wouldn't call it an "agenda".
As for science (and apart from the fact that even "good" sci-fi has warp/FTL drive and many other things that are utterly implausible), the film suffered from the familiar "small space" syndrome. After 2 years in cryosleep using ion drive (sub-light speed) the Prometheus couldn't have reached another star system from Earth. Still, it's not as bad as Serenity - a fun film, but one that must have been set in a really, really small universe.
15-06-2012, 01:19 PM
Well at least people are talking about - it would be worse for them if it were just ignored. One wonders whether it was rushed out a bit hoping to capitalise on the 3D Avatar success.
I will see it at the local theater on a cheap Tuesday and go for visuals not the story line :)
15-06-2012, 03:09 PM
It is great that we have differing opinions, it would be a dull world otherwise. :)
I actually thought Serenity was a fantastic movie, but then I loved Firefly anyway. In fact, I thought Firefly (yippeee, Cowboys in Space) was the best Sci-Fi series ever, absolutely loved it, and it was so underrated. Hmmm, now that I think of it, might go watch Firefly / Serenity..........again!!! :) Haven't watched it in a least six months, shame on me! :P
I think Sci-Fi is meant for pure entertainment, for those with a vivid imagination, and is not meant for science education anyway. Science documentaries are made for that.
I mostly switch my brain off and just enjoy the ride. Takes me on an imaginary trip away from the mundane troubles of this world, at least for a couple of hours. :D
15-06-2012, 03:28 PM
OK maybe agenda was a bit of a strong word, but no true scientist would use lines such as 'its what I choose to believe' when it comes to their work.. That said there was this crazy [spoiler] theory: http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html
Re Serenity, this is what I meant by internal consistency. The Firefly series and Serenity movie take place in a four star system nicknames 'the verse' http://www.fireflyshipworks.com/map-of-the-verse/map-of-the-verse/ , while it is an implausible configuration, at least they tried to make a consistent world. In Prometheus they traveled 10^14km in 2 years (thousands of light years).. with sub-light tech, they didn't attempt to explain how this was possible.
Yes hyperdrives are implausible, but at least they can be used to construct a consistent universe for the story to take place in.
15-06-2012, 04:58 PM
I know what you mean about consistency. I'm more likely to enjoy something if the writers/producers lay down the ground rules and then stick to them. I like James P. Hogan's books for that reason - quite fictional, but also quite believable with that "discovery is just around the corner" feel due to strong internal consistency and well constructed plot.
I'd not seen the map of The Verse before. Thanks for that. It is indeed a really, really small universe! :)
In thinking more about Prometheus, and after having read some more online material, perhaps some of the perceived problems in the film arise from the grandiose nature of the story being packed into a 2-hour format and "sexed-up" with action and horror to draw in audiences? Would an alternative version with the tone of 2001: A Space Odyssey have made any money at the box office? I don't know... it's just a thought.
15-06-2012, 05:53 PM
Seeing this tonight. I've not seen the trailer or anything, but, will be leaving brain at home and just going to enjoy the eye candy. It's been a while since I saw a movie. I think Hugo was the last one I saw.
15-06-2012, 06:14 PM
Saw it today and was entertained - visual effects are stunning. I won't comment on the story line but hope (and expect) there'll be a director's cut when the BlueRay version is released :)
16-06-2012, 12:45 AM
Landscapes to die for. Damn.
16-06-2012, 11:08 PM
Just saw it and loved every minute of it
I love sci fi not for story lines or object scales and accuracy but because it allows you to lose yourself in the whole premise and get your imagination flying
Loved the visuals, love the mean look of Prometheus, can't wait to watch it in IMAX 3d
17-06-2012, 08:55 AM
I agree. It could have been epic. But it was crap.
17-06-2012, 10:31 AM
:) You will its awsome in 3D , I loved it also .
17-06-2012, 10:37 AM
:lol: A trained scientist ??? whats that ? , trained as a mouth technition ? :rofl: , Each to his or her own , its a movie Man , not scienticic FACT ,, :shrug: , go watch any movie today and its full of poetic license, thats the nature of the beast , Ive even seen it on the " Discovery Chanel " Cheezz ...:help: .
I reiterate that I enjoyed the movie a lot, but the disappointment was that Prometheus's screenplay and some storyline elements were below par compared to most of Ridley's other work - Alien, Bladerunner and many of his other non-scifi movies (eg. Matchstick Men, IMHO a brilliant and beautiful movie right to the end). Ridley has made clunkers before, eg. Hannibal, and his own comment has been ' ...hmm, that one didn't turn out so well, time to move on, ...next...." So he admits that he's not perfect. I'm perplexed as why he didn't recognise the faults during Prometheus's production, and what he might now say about the film given hindsight and audience reaction. And despite all this, yes, I do want a sequel! Fox.
18-06-2012, 05:43 AM
As in I have a masters degree in physics.. like I said, it doesn't have to all fact or even consistent within our laws of physics, so long as it is consistent within the framework they build. This isn't a lot to ask for, most movies do manage it eg The Matrix, Inception even Avatar..
Anyway, I'm not trying to take anyone's fun away, like you say 'each to his or her own'. I'm just saying if anyone, like me, demands this low level or rigour to enjoy a flick, they'd best skip this one.
18-06-2012, 12:30 PM
:lol: Ok , lesson learnt ? You should have saved your $25 ....:rofl:.
18-06-2012, 05:58 PM
Well.... I saw it over the weekend and enjoyed it from a visual point of view. Yes the script etc is nothing special. I have been a huge fan of the art of HR Giger for over 30 years and this film basically animates many of his famous artworks from decades ago in those sets, for instance the alien space ship and its control room. So maybe this film is for fans of Giger's dark visions only?
18-06-2012, 10:55 PM
Saw it tonight, only average I thought...
I thhought it didn't have great action, nor was it a witty & suspenseful story
19-06-2012, 08:09 AM
I thought it was a movie with stupid characters doing stupid things.
24-06-2012, 05:22 PM
Saw it last night in 3D
Strange. I loved it in the moment from a visual point of view. The CGI, scenery etc.. were just amazing. My wife however walked out and said 2nd worst movie she has ever seen.
Read no further if you have not seen it.
The story however and most of the acting was B grade at best. Complete waste of Charlize Theron talents. Good eye candy that's for sure but acting was wooden. Guy Pearce ? Why bother. Could have been anyone given size of the part.
Some of the characters they cast were just silly and their behavior was just stupid and reckless. Not the kind of thing you would see on a trillion dollar space mission where first contact was likely to be made. Misfit biologists and punk dope smoking geologist. please...
just a few examples of stupid unrealistic and unbelievable behavior:
· Science mission or not, you would never visit some strange planet with clearly manmade structures and then just waltz in with no planning, no reconnaissance, and no weapons for defense. hmnnnn lets assume they will be friendly.....
· Land on strange planet and within minutes jump into your vehicles onto a strange surface you are unfamiliar with and casually drive in with 6 hours of light left.
· Take of your oxygen mask because air is "breathable". Air is breathable with ebola and bird flu flying around too. Doesn't mean you won't get contaminated by an airborne pathogen or something man made sensors are not calibrated to detect.
· See strange snake like creature acting aggressively and walk up to it calling it a cute puppy and stick your hand near it on Martian planet. Yeah right. You're a trained professional scientist that doesn't know anything about this species. You may even hurt it by touching it and you act that way.
· Get stuck in an alien facility for the night and choose to hang out in the creepiest most dangerous room in the place with massive alien statue and urns full of oozing black stuff with a big pile of bodies outside the room. Yup that's what I would do
· Find 3000 or 35000 year old head (can't remember) and stuff it in a duffel bag to bring back to you ship for examination later. Thats what all trained archeologist do when they find precious artefacts at a dig. No painstaking removal of dirt with toothbirshes and dusters for this lot....
· Get major abdominal surgery with muscles cut right through and then be up for another mission that includes a lot of running about 10 minutes later. Ask any lady who has had a C section. They can barely lift their heads for 2 days.
· Cutting out a clearly alien body out of your stomach, then casually leaving it in a medical pod on your ship without telling anyone in the crew or worrying about endangering their lives.
· Miracle medical pod in female captains safety pod quarters is only calibrated for men ?
· Walk up to your fellow crew members after just having had an alien taken out of your stomach, blood dripping of your body and the crew barely look up at you and ask what happened and at best make a wise crack..
· Massive space ship rolling like a wheel. Intelligent woman looks up and runs straight in the path its rolling not sideways.
· 3 crew members that are basically space fillers in last 10 minutes of movie turn into heroes and ram the alien ship, combined with worst acting and cheesiest lines I've just about hear.
· How do you get lost in a cave that has been 3d mapped and your positions tracked and relayed back to central station ?
· Last survivor of massive mission. Very intense. Discovered that race is trying to wipe out your planet. You find a way off the planet that relies on a robot you don't trust and decide to fly off to another planet not back to earth to warn them. You do all of this without wondering what you might eat along the way. Will the cryo container for the aliens work for humans ? same dna is one thing but size etc.. are very different. How do you know the container wont overfeed you and kill you as its calibrated for an engineer size dude ?
· Wake up some dude 3 times your size who has been sleeping for who knows how many years. Surround him with 4 little dudes (humans) who sort of look like him, act aggressively towards one of the little dudes by smashing them in stomach. Don't introduce yourselves at all, then first thing you do is ask it if would not mind granting immortality to some old little dude. (This guy might be the equivalent of a mechanic or ships janitor) Imagine yourself in the engineers position getting woken up like that ? I might want to smash a few people myself at that point as you would be disoriented and scared.
Basically everything was just too rushed to get to the next scene and behavior too unrealistic to make it believable with no build up. Could have done a "lord of the rings" rather and made it 3 hours, or even broken it into 2 or 3 movies and would have done much more justice to the potential of the script. The story has so much potential to be awesome. I'm hoping a long directors cut can improve this a lot.
24-06-2012, 06:50 PM
lol, nice one, Chris. This is why I left my brain at home and went for the eye candy. No-one will make movies like The Godfather, again.
Apparently, Charlize Theron was supposed to play the female lead (instead of Noomi Rapace), but, due to timing/other jobs, she was unable to play the lead. Or, so I've been told.
24-06-2012, 06:57 PM
Think they should have got Angelina Jolie. And Brad Pitt as the squid. Perfect.
25-06-2012, 01:33 PM
Why destroy a good action sci-fi story with logic and real science, maybe one day they'll make a movie that conforms to known reality, but I doubt it ???
This was the thing that got me about the first Alien movie, man with unknown obviously unfriendly creature stuck on face and how easily it was for someone to overide quarantine guidelines with no thought for the rest of the crew or what may go wrong.
Unknown never before encoutered species, hey man let it in ???
As with Aliens, perfectly good drop ship the all clear hasn't been called as the marines investigate the plant etc but we will set down our drop ship for a smoko and have a look around leaving it open so good old Alien can sneak aboard.
25-06-2012, 07:37 PM
25-06-2012, 08:59 PM
:confused2: stop playing with my mind :screwy:
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