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Octane
28-02-2012, 01:34 AM
http://pavel-kosenko.livejournal.com/303194.html?thread=22669914

WOW!

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These were shot in 1942. Consider the primitive nature of the gear:

* No strobes
* No softboxes
* No lightmeter
* No autofocus
* No chimping for immediate feedback
* No histogram
* No blinkies warning of blown highlights
* No custom white balance

Using a 4x5 camera (Probably a Graflex Speed Graphic)

* Image appears upside down and reversed on ground-glass focusing screen
* Camera weighed up to 10 lbs. and is at least 15 times bulkier than an SLR
* Shooting 24 frames requires a dozen film holders with darkslides -- enough to fill a shoulder bag. To shoot a hundred frames would require a suitcase full of film holders.
* Tripod probably weighed at least as much as the camera
* Kodachrome ASA (now ISO) speed of 25 (though most 4x5 work over the decades was shot on Ektachrome, not Kodachrome)
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I'm floored.

H

bloodhound31
28-02-2012, 02:25 AM
Stunning! Exposures are perfect every time. Now there's a real photographer.

Thanks for posting H. I found it most interesting.

Baz.

bartman
28-02-2012, 04:31 AM
WOW! indeed!
Thats just amazing!
Thanks for posting H.
I'm floored too!
Bartman

SkyViking
28-02-2012, 06:21 AM
That's incredible, and very interesting! Thanks for the link H.

supernova1965
28-02-2012, 06:38 AM
I really enjoyed them, though I was surprised about the colour images for some reason I expected black and white was colour just new or had it been around for awhile in 1942 sorry for the newb question.

iceman
28-02-2012, 06:49 AM
Awesome photos - so clear and sharp.

The posing was pretty funny :) They almost looked like modern day recreations - hard to believe they were taken in 1942.

Poita
28-02-2012, 07:21 AM
There was the Autochrome process available around 1903 or so I think, and then there was that Russian guy who did what we do, coloured filters to get RGB and then combined them later to get colour. These colour images are from 1908 onwards!

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/ethnic.html
click on the photos to get larger versions, the entire exhibition is here:
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/

leon
28-02-2012, 07:27 AM
As said awesome photography, some one sure new there work, lovely set of pics H.

Leon

erick
28-02-2012, 07:36 AM
Just fantastic images!

Can we have the "only film gives you real colour!" argument?

Jeffkop
28-02-2012, 08:29 AM
Thanks H .. they were a delight to immerse myself in.

Miaplacidus
28-02-2012, 08:45 AM
Who knew Americans actually made stuff!

Omaroo
28-02-2012, 08:57 AM
Utterly enjoyable Humayun, thanks! Rather special, not only from a photographic viewpoint, but also to see this machinery in a completely new state. I'm so used to seeing it belted up and oxidised. A wonderful journey down the lanes of history. :thumbsup:

Octane
28-02-2012, 09:05 AM
Oh, yeah! The Prokudin-Gorskii stuff. That archive of images makes the hair on the back of my neck stand on end. Incredible stuff.

H

Octane
28-02-2012, 09:06 AM
Also, here you go, guys:

http://www.shorpy.com/image/tid/179

The rest.

:eyepop:

H

strongmanmike
28-02-2012, 09:17 AM
Great link H :thumbsup:

Omaroo
28-02-2012, 09:18 AM
Seeing this level of detail, and in colour, of scenes way back then is amazing. Gives me the impression that they were taken yesterday. Wow.

strongmanmike
28-02-2012, 09:19 AM
Totally agree Chris, almost scary.....

Omaroo
28-02-2012, 09:21 AM
What... that we agree?

:P

:lol:

:thumbsup:

traveller
28-02-2012, 09:33 AM
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Awesome photos. Considering the SKILLS required.
Love the sutle tones and perfect exposures.

hotspur
28-02-2012, 09:54 AM
-it felt like I just stepped outside the 'Tardis',viewing these one can really feel as if they are almost in the scene.Fantastic link-all should scroll through and view all images.

Osirisra
28-02-2012, 12:41 PM
Speechless, time portals indeed.

lacad01
28-02-2012, 01:35 PM
Thanks for sharing that link H., almost like stepping back in time and actually being there! :thumbsup:

gary
28-02-2012, 01:49 PM
Hi H,

Thanks for posting a link to these marvelous images.

You can find more of same here -
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/08/world-war-ii-the-american-home-front-in-color/100122/

Only last Saturday in the early hours of the morning on the observing field, I was
chatting to a couple of our American visitors who both shared the hobby of printing
Kodachrome transparencies.

They spoke with a nostalgic sadness of when in 2010 Dywane's Photo in Kansas closed
what was the last remaining Kodachrome processing lab.



That's far too fast. :) Back then it would have been around ASA 10 or 8.
Even though you can see the photographers have used additional
lights in many cases and possibly a flash bulb, it is little wonder the indoor
subjects had to hold still their poses.

However, this had the added side effect that the subjects take on the
appearance of everyday working-class living statue heroes. A theme
popularly used in propaganda by countries to this day.

One of the reasons Kodachrome was so loved was because it was so forgiving
in its dynamic range, even more so when it was projected. The worse you could
do is over expose it but it was quite recoverable when underexposed.
Printing it, as opposed to projecting it, because of the nature of the print medium,
lost so much of the dynamic range of the image.

One can only imagine how good the original transparencies of these particular war
time images would be when projected on a screen.



Hi Warren. Kodachrome, which was just one type of color transparency film,
was introduced in the mid 1930's. A lot of film during the war was shot in color.

Consider the motion picture The Wizard of Oz shot in Technicolor in 1939.
The color film was so slow though that the studios were apparently ablaze with
hot lights to provide sufficient illumination and actors in costumes suffered the
heat and some claimed eye damage from the lighting intensity.

Apart from their technical sophistication and skill by which they were
shot, these vivid WWII images also have significant historical value, both
as wonderful examples of war time propaganda and an insight into the formidable
industrial and military might of the U.S. at the time. For those who have
either owned or had the opportunity to closely examine first hand equipment
such as U.S. made military radio gear from the era, one marvels at the materials,
the attention to detail in the wiring looms and often no expense spared precision
of their assembly.

Thanks again for bringing these wonderful images to our attention. :thumbsup:

Poita
28-02-2012, 02:24 PM
Actually, depending on the way these were scanned, we may be seeing them as good as or better than they would look projected. Print has a very limited dynamic range, but a modern IPS monitor can outperform a projection system, and we are effectively seeing them backlit as well.

gary
28-02-2012, 03:02 PM
Hi Peter,

Alas, even with regards to one step in the process of re-producing them
digitally, specifically as soon as the images were converted to jpeg, dynamic
range would have been lost. In other words, the data is literally no longer there.
So no matter what device is used to display the reproductions, one can no longer
bring back all the information that was inherent to the originals.

Nevertheless, it is testimony to the quality of the original transparencies, the
sophistication of the scanning and post processing and modern display technology
that enables us to admire them from half a world away. :thumbsup:

One can only imagine how much time was spent by archivists in removing
the last signs of scratches and dust artifacts and in that regard, they are more than likely to excel the originals.

Ausrock
28-02-2012, 09:45 PM
H, many thanks for the links.

The responses here make me curious as to how many of our members have actually worked with film and especially worked with cameras without inbuilt metering etc. My first "good" camera was a Pentax S2.........look at the subject, look at available light, weigh up reflections, etc., and then set f/stop and speed and off you go ;). I still have all my B&W processing gear, unfortunately, my favourite film, Kodak's TechPan 2415 is no longer available.

Octane
28-02-2012, 09:59 PM
Hi Chris,

I started shooting black and white film on my father's Pentax 35mm SLR when I was 16 or 17. Developed the film, too.

Then, moved on to coloured film, but, nothing exotic.

Along came the digital revolution and I jumped on board. I've come full circle now as I've been shooting Astia, Velvia, ACROS and XP2 in 120 format. :)

Just this weekend I shot parts of a wedding (during formals) in ACROS. :)

H

erick
28-02-2012, 10:16 PM
Yep, Pentax KX and shot black and white and processed it myself for a while. Shot lots of Ektachrome and Fuji slide film over many years. Always wanted to process my own slides, but never got around to it. Had a separate light meter, but have always had in-camera light metering.

lacad01
28-02-2012, 10:18 PM
My first camera was a Konica Autoreflex TC which I got when I was 15 - many years ago now ;). It had the luxury of an in-built meter and shutter-priority auto mode however never got into processing side of things.

Ausrock
28-02-2012, 10:57 PM
I've never worked "professionally" but I had a Bronica SQ-Am for a long time and these days regret having sold it. Actually, I've started looking around for a medium format again...........just have to justify it to the better half :D

Ric
29-02-2012, 10:09 AM
Wonderful images H, a great find.

The photographer sure knew his stuff.

Some of those shots remind me of stories my mother used to tell me about how she used to wire in the electricals of tanks during WW2 in England.