NereidT
14-02-2012, 11:23 AM
I'm new here, so I'm not sure if this the best place for this thread ...
By the title, I mean, what ~100 objects would he have chosen, had he lived in Australia?
Assume he lived not too far north (so the south celestial pole would have been well up in the sky), and at a site with at least a decent number of clear moonless nights a year, spread throughout the year (so he could have observed the full celestial sphere, well, over a period of several years). Also assume he had a telescope comparable to the one(s) he actually used, in France.
I'm particularly interested in what we - today - call galaxies he'd have included among his list of a hundred or so objects (like the joke 'why did the dinosaur cross the road? because chickens hadn't been invented then.' "Galaxies" weren't 'invented' until well after Messier had died).
Of course, many 'Aussie Messier' objects would be the same as the real Messier objects; there's a good chunk of the sky that can be clearly seen from both Sydney and Paris (for example)! So I'm not interested in those, except - perhaps - the southern Dec ones that he 'should' have seen, but didn't, because they never rose high enough in his sky to observe clearly (but did clear his southern horizon).
I know about the Caldwell objects; they're a good place to start trying to answer my question, but - for various reasons - by no means the full answer itself! :P
If you're interested, I can give you a link to a discussion I started on a different forum, on this topic (PM me, please).
By the title, I mean, what ~100 objects would he have chosen, had he lived in Australia?
Assume he lived not too far north (so the south celestial pole would have been well up in the sky), and at a site with at least a decent number of clear moonless nights a year, spread throughout the year (so he could have observed the full celestial sphere, well, over a period of several years). Also assume he had a telescope comparable to the one(s) he actually used, in France.
I'm particularly interested in what we - today - call galaxies he'd have included among his list of a hundred or so objects (like the joke 'why did the dinosaur cross the road? because chickens hadn't been invented then.' "Galaxies" weren't 'invented' until well after Messier had died).
Of course, many 'Aussie Messier' objects would be the same as the real Messier objects; there's a good chunk of the sky that can be clearly seen from both Sydney and Paris (for example)! So I'm not interested in those, except - perhaps - the southern Dec ones that he 'should' have seen, but didn't, because they never rose high enough in his sky to observe clearly (but did clear his southern horizon).
I know about the Caldwell objects; they're a good place to start trying to answer my question, but - for various reasons - by no means the full answer itself! :P
If you're interested, I can give you a link to a discussion I started on a different forum, on this topic (PM me, please).