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iceman
16-03-2006, 07:20 AM
Ian Ogilvie (stringscope) has written a review on Generic Chinese Wide Angle Long Eye Relief Eyepieces.

You can read the review on the IceInSpace Reviews (http://www.iceinspace.com.au/index.php?reviews) page, or directly by clicking on the link below:

Generic Chinese Wide Angle Long Eye Relief Eyepieces (http://www.iceinspace.com.au/index.php?id=42,286,0,0,1,0)

Thanks to Ian for writing the review!

If anyone else would like to contribute a how-to, article, review or other content for the site, please contact me.

iceman
16-03-2006, 08:08 AM
Article uploaded.

[1ponders]
16-03-2006, 10:37 AM
Ian, from an eyepiece non -officionardo thanks for writing a really easy to read article in plain understandable english. To me an eyepiece is for assisting in lining up the scope ready for imaging and apart for a 16mm T2 nag I bought recently for a specific purpose, I've never really been big on eyepieces. Your article just may just tempt me in keeping my eye out for any second hand ones getting around.

btw that is one stunning looking hire out scope. Great setup and a perfect choice of star atlas for the newbie.

ving
16-03-2006, 10:45 AM
they sound like sound eyepieces... thanks for the writeup :)

what did you buy the 16mmt3 for paul?

[1ponders]
16-03-2006, 12:36 PM
Looking through ving







:rofl: some dob owners leave themselves wide open:rolleyes: :rofl: :poke:

[1ponders]
16-03-2006, 12:37 PM
for moderate power widefield DSOs like galaxies and globs ving

ving
16-03-2006, 12:52 PM
so not a paper weight then? :P

pick on me will ya! :)
:poke:

fringe_dweller
16-03-2006, 01:00 PM
excellent well written review, thanks Ian, but once again I note a glaring omission, as I so often do with ep reviews, as to wether these ep's are 1.25" or 2" I see this time and time again! reviews go into great detail afov's, eye relief ect. but leave that out this fundamental detail - not picking on ya mate - your not the first to do that! unless I missed it?

janoskiss
16-03-2006, 01:25 PM
Or maybe 0.965" for the countless 60mm 575x owners. :P

To me it is evident from the photos and the references to 1.25" accessories that the EPs have 1.25" barrels. I think it is safe to assume that an EP is a standard 1.25" size unless otherwise stated.

stringscope
16-03-2006, 08:30 PM
Thanks for your comments team. Ooops .......... Talk about spot the obvious error.........sorry guys, you are right 1.25":doh: . I will try and improve next time.:)

Hi Paul, yes, it was a "blast" turning a battered Tasco into that little dob. It looks great and works well! I hope to replace the primary mirror which is chipped with the one donated by Asimov in the next week or so.

Cheers,

matt
16-03-2006, 09:59 PM
Nice review Ian.

I have the 6mm and include it occasionally when I'm just looking for a quick look at the sky without too much fussing about.

Tuc47 and Omega Cent are framed quite nicely in my 8" f5.

It came as part of an introductory on-line EP set. I've been tossing up whether to sell it because I've got 2 6mms ...but it's just so handy to have a little "hard nut" high mag EP in your kit which can handle the treatment when you don't feel like being too precious:lol:

Hammerman
17-03-2006, 05:49 AM
Very well written review, Ian. I've been wondering about the 15mm ep for a while now. Sounds like it should be nice for the price. I wonder how well a pair of them would work in binoviewers?

dhumpie
17-03-2006, 12:26 PM
Hey guys,

You might have seen that I peer reviewed the article Ian wote. These ep's, while not up to the standard of the more "exalted" TV's and Pentax's do quite well for their price. The best of the 4 being the 15mm and the 9mm period (even in fast f/5 scopes )....

Darren

Hammerman
18-03-2006, 05:43 AM
So the 15mm is one of the best of the group? Exactly what I was hoping to hear. Thanks Darren!

ausastronomer
19-03-2006, 09:15 PM
Firstly let me say that everyones eyes, budget and expectations are different when it comes to eyepieces. I call it as I see it.

I can't comment on all of these eyepieces but I did own the 20mm for one month. At the time I owned an 8"/F6 newtonian. Why did I own it for one month ? That was how long it took me to get back to Sydney to Lee Andrews and get my money back on it. To be honest I thought it was woeful. Compared to a 20mm Orion Sirius Plossl (a good budget plossl also made by Synta) I also owned at the time, it didn't begin to compare. Compared to my 18mm UO HD ortho it wasn't in the race despite having a wider AFOV. What is the point of a 66 deg AFOV when only 40 deg of it is useable in a fast scope and that useable 40 deg is not as good as a good plossl or orthoscopic? I can't comment on any of the other focal lengths. From what I have subsequently read in forum reviews the other focal lengths are better than the 20mm. I did try the eyepiece in a Celestron C8 at F10 and it did a reasonable job in an F10 scope so may not be a bad option if your on a limited budget and own a slow scope.

Sorry guys but I think they are very average and if I was on a limited budget there are a lot of eyepieces out there that I would be buying before I bought those. eg Orion Sirius Plossls and barlow them to preserve eye relief to get shorter focal lengths. FWIW I rate the 15mm and 20mm GSO Superviews at about the same level, very ordinary.

CS-John B

mickoking
19-03-2006, 11:03 PM
Great review Ian. I believe these Asian wide angles do a great job for their price. Some people put down the 20mm SV's but in my opinion, for their price you really can't complain. You don't need to spend a fortune to enjoy the night sky, that's what it's all about :thumbsup:

janoskiss
19-03-2006, 11:35 PM
John, I think the more experience you gain the quicker you notice what is wrong with an eyepiece and the less tolerant you become to aberrations.

I tried a 20mm Superview in an f5 scope at the Snake Valley meeting. I thought it was a shocker, a virtually useless eyepiece in this scope. Even a cheap plossl would have been considerably better. However, three newcomers to the hobby were very pleased with it (and the 15mm one too) and Jodie sounded pretty much convinced that she will be buying some. They looked through my 19mm Panoptic in the same scope, and they said it was nice, nicer even, but they were not suddenly "enlightened" to how bad the 20mm superview is.

I think one observes differently when starting out, maybe fixing the gaze in the centre and not looking around too much. It took me a few weeks to become displeased with my 30mm Superview (it is not as bad as the 20mm though), which was my first eyepiece after the GS and Andrews 500 Plossls that came with my scope. When I first got the Superview I thought it was fantastic. Now I think it is a usable finder but no more.