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glenc
30-11-2011, 01:10 AM
http://www.australiasbestcars.com.au/2011/default.htm
glenc
30-11-2011, 01:11 AM
http://news.drive.com.au/drive/car-of-the-year/drive-2011-car-of-the-year--winners-list-20111122-1nsi7.html
http://news.drive.com.au/car-of-the-year
glenc
30-11-2011, 01:18 AM
Total Australian vehicle sales by model Jan to Oct 2011:
Holden Commodore – 34,995
Mazda3 – 34,624
Toyota HiLux – 31,169
Toyota Corolla – 28,737
Holden Cruze – 28,608
Hyundai i30 – 24,853
Nissan Navara – 18,476
Toyota Camry – 16,659
Volkswagen Golf – 16,606
Ford Falcon – 15,882
Small cars were the biggest sellers with 24.4% of the market YTD 2011.
http://www.fcai.com.au/sales/latest-sales-reports
http://www.australiasbestcars.com.au/2011/Score%20Sheet_Small%20Under%2035K.p df
Fuel consumption
http://www.greenvehicleguide.gov.au/GVGPublicUI/Search.aspx
The Ford WS Fiesta Econetic is the most economical car with 3.6L per 100km.
glenc
30-11-2011, 06:01 AM
UK Reliability Index http://www.reliabilityindex.com/top-100
http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer
Do they have an Australian reliability index?
supernova1965
30-11-2011, 06:46 AM
OH look who's on top and who's on the bottom:P HE HE HE HO HO HO:rofl:
glenc
30-11-2011, 07:01 AM
Large cars (Commodore/Falcon) make up only 7.9 % of the market (2011 YTD) and most of those are government/fleet sales.
http://www.fcai.com.au/sales/latest-sales-reports
Interesting, thanks Glen.
The Commodore has a rather tenuous grip on the number one position. Holden are making the right move in promoting the Cruze as people move to more economical cars. Interesting that the Mazda3 has overtaken the Corolla in sales. Toyota need to get more "zoom" into their designs. In fact, the Cruze is snapping at the heels of the Corolla.
Regards, Rob
TheDecepticon
30-11-2011, 10:09 AM
What I find ironic is how the sales figures do not reflect the winners in the ABC catagories. It also reflects in ABC that some of the catagorey winners are not main stream vehicles and therefore should not be included.
glenc
30-11-2011, 10:25 AM
I would like to see ABC include utes/dual cabs.
Sales influence our car choices too of course.
glenc
30-11-2011, 11:17 AM
http://www.mynrma.com.au/motoring/buy-sell/buying-advice/car-operating-costs/top-10-cars.htm
bartman
30-11-2011, 11:28 AM
:thumbsup::D
Yeah I thought that was interesting too!
Bartman
Mliss
30-11-2011, 12:08 PM
:rolleyes:
i would buy this if i had the money
http://www.adamsautos.com.au/Automotive/Used-Cars/Small-Medium-Family-Prestige-Cars/1955-FORD-PREFECT-100E-4D-SEDAN/D755401577058/details.aspx
he's beautiful!
bartman
30-11-2011, 01:03 PM
Just watched Cars 2 !
Loving those old skool Bambino type cars!
Reminds me of the Topolino ( i think)
Cute
Bartman
supernova1965
30-11-2011, 01:05 PM
I thought cars were always girls:P
bartman
30-11-2011, 01:17 PM
I thought it only was ships/boats?
Bartman
Love my Crewman Ute, best purchase I've ever made in the car department.
kustard
30-11-2011, 02:38 PM
I'm surprised to see the Holden Cruze up there, I haven't seen many on the roads at all.
I do like my i30 though :)
Gallifreyboy
30-11-2011, 05:13 PM
I've never seen the actual car the famous character from Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy was named after before now. Thanks for sharing :)
mithrandir
30-11-2011, 06:42 PM
The checkerplate under the bonnet looks a bit of an anachronism.
glenc
30-11-2011, 06:52 PM
I think there is a time lag, it takes a while for people to start buying the best cars. And some people never hear about them.
GrahamL
30-11-2011, 08:15 PM
Hey I remember my old mans prefect back in the 60's :thumbsup:
Wow what a car , If I remember right it hated hills was really ,really ,slow and used to crunch in all gears, I remember that as the noise used to scare the bejusus out of me .
But to be honest we saw quite a bit of a few towns between brisbane
and yamba thanks to the old prefect,due to it breaking down and having to wait till the garage opened again on monday.
brian nordstrom
30-11-2011, 11:04 PM
;) Now you are talking ,
1971 R/T E37 Chrysler Valiant Charger ( with y2k tech, eg 5 speed supra, wild wood brakes ,etc , etc. )
and
2002 BA XR6 Turbo Falcon.( stage 3 flash , valve springs , injectors ,, etc, etc,)
:thumbsup:
Hey wait a miniute ?;) Hey! :rofl:
I own BOTH !
Woaw !
He He He .:D
For transporting my scopes to a dark site ? :thumbsup:
Brian.
glenc
01-12-2011, 01:26 AM
Sounds like my dad's green Austin A40 wagon. We had to unload it once because it would not go up a hill.
glenc
01-12-2011, 06:24 AM
It is interesting that the Mazda 3 sells well but the Ford Focus does not. They are basically the same car.
The Focus is the Drive Car of the Year 2011 Best Small Car winner http://news.drive.com.au/drive/car-of-the-year/drive-car-of-the-year-2011-best-small-car-winner-20111122-1ns6b.html
It was also second with ABC http://www.australiasbestcars.com.au/2011/Score%20Sheet_Small%20Under%2035K.p df
GrampianStars
01-12-2011, 06:34 AM
Love my VZ ute.
The back is large enough to hold the Meade Lx200GPS 12" in its Alu case, tripod, extra cases for equipment, camping gear etc,etc,
doubles for a bed when scopes set up, so no need for a tent :thumbsup:
TheDecepticon
01-12-2011, 09:45 AM
I didn't think they were. I believe the Focus is a Euro designed, built in South Africa job, whereas the Mazda 3 is a Japanese designed and built unit. The quality difference is evident.
Regardless of where the Focus has ended up, its reliability is still questionable.
You should check your Vfacts, they tell the real story, I believe.
TheDecepticon
01-12-2011, 09:52 AM
The Cruze is selling well and is a very strong product. Cost, driveability, fit and finish, comfort etc are all world class. There are alot of them out there. I think they outsold Corolla last month and are catching Mazda quite rapidly.
Kevnool
01-12-2011, 01:38 PM
Just love my worked Chev 350 motor the type of vehicle does not matter.
Cheers
glenc
01-12-2011, 06:51 PM
Mazda 3 uses the Ford C1 platform.
The best cars are not always the best selling cars and vice versa.
tlgerdes
01-12-2011, 07:13 PM
How many cars has your motor had?:D
Barrykgerdes
01-12-2011, 07:32 PM
My favourite car was an Austin A30 (also the fastest through Galston Gorge) Brocky knew what an A30 could do.
My most powerful was a 1971 HG holden (did Toowomba to Narrabri at an average speed of 95.7MPH)
Best car in a corner was a 1985 Camira wagon (3 wheels no bother)
Longest lasting car 1989 Camry wagon (I still have it)
My all time favourite but I never owned one 1955 Chev Belair
I now buy cars on economics basis.
I am quite happy with my Ford Fiesta
Barry
PS I like riding in Elva's son's Roller . Particularly when passing people in cars that I know.
dj gravelrash
01-12-2011, 07:56 PM
Love my 05 mazda 3 maxxsport
Due to appalling depreciation values would never buy Ford or Holden again. lol:lol:
The Mekon
01-12-2011, 08:47 PM
[QUOTE=kustard;792056]I'm surprised to see the Holden Cruze up there, I haven't seen many on the roads at all.
It all depends where you live. I am working in Whyalla at present and there are heaps of Cruzes on the road. The local dealer must be reaaly pushing them.
I have noticed that the "car park" here in Whyalla S.A. is very different to my home at Bowral NSW. Lots of Holdens & Fords here in Whyalla, most of them with "upgrades" (bling) Back home there are lots of European cars, Peugots, Skodas, VWs etc as well as heaps of Hondas, Toyotas. Not uncommon to see Astons, Bentleys and Ferraris back home. Never seen any in Whyalla.
Kevnool
01-12-2011, 09:09 PM
Hi Trevor no cars just the boats.
The unmistakable purrrrrrr of a Chev ( 4 bolt mains ).
Cheers Kev.
Peter Ward
01-12-2011, 10:56 PM
Not sure where this post is going.... but I candidly admit I am no fan of home grown cars....as they are corporate token vehicles IMHO...
I suspect a "real" Aussie car might be something truly unique, but the reality is a mis-mash of Detroit and Toyota (! it's also a city!) hand-me-downs.
But, I am totally irrational when it comes to cars...or perhaps more Yin-Yang...not sure which...
I have a very relaible German daily drive...and totally tempestuous Italian job :)...
If they were Chef's, I'd tell Fritz: a salad today would be fine.
..and meanwhile ask Sophia to make something spicy...
..ah! Amore' !
pgc hunter
02-12-2011, 12:10 AM
Ford killed off the Falcon wagon and effectively replaced it with the Territory, I guess those that want a wagon have to look elsewhere, or purchased a territory instead, so that would be part of the reason for the low falcon sales.
:D great if you're after a used car though... got my 1999 falcon wagon for $1500...... then nearly 2 grand to get the roadworthy and iron out all the bugs.... then another 1300 for the lpg conversion. Still, a not too old and reliable car that can fit a 12" and an 8" plus mounts and eyepiece cases and all that for under $5000.. can't complain! I'll probably drive it until it dies lol
ballaratdragons
02-12-2011, 12:53 AM
Keep an eye out in here, I have seen Prefects in here a lot of times for about $900 - $3000
and all sorts of great old cars at cheap prices :thumbsup:
Click HERE! (http://www.justauto.com.au/justcars/search?search=advanced&parent_page=%2Fjustcars%2F&looking_for=For+Sale&search_category=ClassicCar&search_region=&keywords=Keywords&search_type_make=&search_type_model=&search_type_year=&search_type_series=&search_details_lowest_price=&search_details_highest_price=&search_details_lowest_mileage=&search_details_highest_mileage=&search_details_transmission=&search_show_ads_from=&search_location_state=&sort=Lowest%20price¤t_page=2)
glenc
02-12-2011, 06:23 AM
The biggest selling car sizes (% mix, YTD 2011) are small cars 24.4%, light cars 13.1% and compact SUVs 11.8%.
http://www.fcai.com.au/sales/latest-sales-reports
The best small cars according to the judges are
http://www.australiasbestcars.com.au/2011/small_under.htm
and
http://news.drive.com.au/drive/car-of-the-year/drive-car-of-the-year-2011-best-small-car-winner-20111122-1ns6b.html
The best light cars according to the judges are
http://www.australiasbestcars.com.au/2011/light_under.htm
and
http://news.drive.com.au/drive/car-of-the-year/drive-car-of-the-year-2011-best-city-car-winner-20111122-1ns67.html
The best compact SUVs according to the judges are
http://www.australiasbestcars.com.au/2011/suv_under.htm
and
http://news.drive.com.au/drive/car-of-the-year/drive-car-of-the-year-2011-best-suv-under-40000-winner-20111122-1ns6h.html
TheDecepticon
02-12-2011, 08:10 AM
I see you have an agenda here, and that seems to be to push ABC as best as you can. On the panel or have a vested interest in a VW dealership?
Well, I'll let you go, 'cause I can tell you that most average people are not going to by VW when they find out the cost of servicing and the poor Australia wide dealer support network. They certainly aren't the sort of vehicle to own out of warranty.
Have a nice day.:D
glenc
02-12-2011, 10:08 AM
No and no.
These are the ABC judges http://www.australiasbestcars.com.au/borlace.htm
I have also listed Drive awards not just ABC.
You can also look at http://www.carsales.com.au/news/2011/small-passenger/volkswagen/polo/wheels-coty-award-goes-to-vw-23297
and http://www.carsguide.com.au/caroftheyear/hall-of-fame
taminga16
02-12-2011, 10:19 AM
I am suprised that there is not a catergory for best convertible, and might it be fair to suggest that the catergories are defined around the market?
Greg.
glenc
02-12-2011, 10:28 AM
Drive has one http://news.drive.com.au/drive/car-of-the-year/drive-car-of-the-year-2011-best-convertible-winner-20111122-1ns6y.html
taminga16
02-12-2011, 10:40 AM
Are VW giving away European holidays for motoring writers?
Hi all,
Seems to be a few VW critics out there.
I am a first time owner of a diesel Golf wagon. Had it for one year and 4 months.
Unlike previous cars I've owned, I couldn't list a single problem for its one year service.
I get an average 4L/100km on a trip and about 6L/100km around my suburb.
The car is torquey, handles well and is cleverly spacious.
Regards, Rob
Mliss
02-12-2011, 07:27 PM
:lol: Bart & Warren. When i was little i used to think all cats were girls and all dogs were boys. :shrug:
you're welcome Gallifreyboy, it's pretty cool huh?!
@ Andrew, i don't even know what that is... :lol:
Thanks for that link Ken... now all i need to do is move east or find someone who can drive a couple west :D
i openly admit to know nothing about cars, so i'm well out of my depth here - but i'd love to see a classics resurgence. :P
as for a VW Rob, as long as it's vintage :love: i'm right behind you :rofl:
Bassnut
02-12-2011, 09:31 PM
Your dead right there, ive always had falcon fairmont/ghia wagons (suited me for many reasons). Gone, so I just bought my 1st Holden ...... SSV wagon, ford have totally lost the plot for me.
marki
03-12-2011, 12:02 AM
These car critics are just like movie and food critics, full of hot air. The best car is the one that suits your needs at the time and many of the things these guys complain about are totally ignored when they exist in the next model or another brand. If you are in the market go and try for yourself and ask others who own the car you want.
Mark
ballaratdragons
03-12-2011, 01:25 AM
I have also found it very handy to ask mechanics about particular cars.
They will quickly tell you which ones come in for repairs the most and how much each car's repairs cost.
I have found that general mechanics (work on all makes of cars, not in brand specific service centres) all seem to have similar answers :thumbsup:
GrahamL
03-12-2011, 08:43 AM
True Ken ,tf and tj magnas as you probably know are pretty reliable cars but all before those were troublesome.
A mechanic friend did put me onto the tj, his coment went along the line of they really have put together a decent car now , but all the
lemons before mean people will never consider owning another magna .
I bought my wagon with 160 000 on it 80k back and havn't spent
anything on it outside normal service stuff.
TrevorW
03-12-2011, 09:06 AM
Toyota for me (every one I've had or my daughters have performed flawlessly my V6 has 240000 on the clock and apart from types,brakes and general service (touch wood) nothing else has gone wrong with it)
although when I saw the thread title I thought it was an oxymoron
glenc
16-12-2011, 06:25 PM
http://www.carsguide.com.au/caroftheyear/2011_carsguide_car_of_the_year_winn ers
FINISHING ORDER
1. Kia Rio
2. Volvo S60
3. Ford Focus
4. BMW 118
5. Holden Cruze
6. Range Rover Evoque
7. Ford Territory
8. Volkwagen Scirocco
9. Hyundai i40
10. Nissan Micra.
People’s Choice
http://www.carsguide.com.au/caroftheyear/peoples-choice
GeoffW1
16-12-2011, 08:32 PM
Hi,
Agree with that Trevor. I've hung on to my 94 Camry V6 Vienta because it has surpassed every other car I've ever had for running reliability and smooth driving.
Not to say they don't have their peculiarities. It cost me over $1000 to get rid of the oil leaks.
Cheers
FlashDrive
16-12-2011, 10:03 PM
Car I wish I still had.... :( ... owned one just the same in my Airforce Day's
1: HK Holden Monaro GTS Coupe ( Color Yellow ) .. 2 Door .. 4speed opel gear box .. 186S Red Motor. ... ( wish I still had this ... worth a mint now ) ... had the black stripes on the Bonnet and on the Boot.
These are pic's of the same car ... but different owner.
Flash :D
overlord
19-12-2011, 01:01 PM
I have toyota soarer and I can confidently say it beats everyone of those on the list in every department except maybe fuel consumption :D
glenc
24-12-2011, 09:42 AM
http://motoring.ninemsn.com.au/slideshow_ajax.aspx?sectionid=75583§ionname=showroom&subsectionid=7804731&subsectionname=WheelsCaroftheYearth eFinalists
Finite
24-12-2011, 12:29 PM
Hmmm....good old Monaro. Always great. I've owned an HX Monaro 1976 for 30 yrs, but i haven't known where it is for the last 28 of those!
glenc
02-01-2012, 09:59 AM
We test 11 of the best sub-$20,000 city hatchbacks on the market following a rush of new arrivals,
including the Toyota Yaris, Suzuki Swift, Holden Barina, Kia Rio, Skoda Fabia, Hyundai Accent, Mazda2 and Honda Jazz.
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/city-hatchbacks-compared-toyota-holden-mazda-ford-volkswagen-hyundai-kia-skoda-honda-suzuki-nissan-20111229-1pdmm.html
also Small car shootout
http://smh.drive.com.au/new-car-comparison/small-car-shootout-ford-v-holden-v-mazda-v-vw-v-peugeot-20111216-1oxrv.html
taminga16
02-01-2012, 10:31 AM
11 of the best sub-$20,000 city hatchbacks
Beggars the question, How many sub $20,000 city hatchbacks are there on the market, and is this list the best 11 or 11 of the best? :)
Greg.
glenc
05-01-2012, 02:38 PM
Top 20 Australian sales by model:
1. Mazda3 – 41,429
2. Holden Commodore – 40,617
3. Toyota HiLux – 36,124
4. Toyota Corolla – 36,087
5. Holden Cruze – 33,784
6. Hyundai i30 – 28,869
7. Nissan Navara – 21,675
8. Toyota Camry – 19,169
9. Ford Falcon – 18,741
10. Mitsubishi Lancer – 18,717
11. Volkswagen Golf – 18,383
12. Mazda2 – 17,591
13. Mitsubishi Triton – 17,188
14. Toyota Yaris – 16,214
15. Ford Ranger – 15,586
16. Ford Territory – 13,866
17. Subaru Forester – 13,142
18. Toyota RAV4 – 13,125
19. Ford Focus – 12,863
20. Suzuki Swift – 12,388
http://www.caradvice.com.au/153541/mazda3-dethrones-holden-commodore-in-2011/
http://www.caradvice.com.au/153575/vehicle-sales-figures-2011-total/
http://www.fcai.com.au/sales/latest-sales-reports
glenc
17-01-2012, 08:28 AM
Top 50
http://whoartnow.hubpages.com/hub/Top-50-Best-Selling-Cars-Of-All-Time
glenc
17-01-2012, 03:43 PM
USA loyalty
Hyundai tops J D Power brand loyalty survey
http://www.caradvice.com.au/155445/hyundai-tops-j-d-power-brand-loyalty-survey/
UK Reliability Index
http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer
Germany reliability
Autobild magazine for cars 3 to 7 years old.
Hyundai 2.43
Honda 2.50, Mazda 2.50, Toyota 2.50
Skoda 2.57
Audi 2.71, BMW 2.71, Mercedes 2.71
Mitsubishi 2.80
Seat 2.83, Suzuki 2.83
VW 2.86
Average 2.94
Nissan 3.00
Ford 3.14, Kia 3.14
Renault 3.16
Opel 3.29
Fiat 3.57
Citroën 3.71
Peugeot 3.86
Are there any stats for Australia?
glenc
18-01-2012, 11:56 AM
Wheels COTY
http://motoring.ninemsn.com.au/specialevent.aspx?sectionid=75631§ionname=specialevents&subsectionid=7803067&subsectionname=wheelscoty2012
Carsguide COTY
http://www.carsguide.com.au/caroftheyear/2011_carsguide_car_of_the_year_winn ers
Drive COTY
http://news.drive.com.au/drive/car-of-the-year/drive-2011-car-of-the-year--winners-list-20111122-1nsi7.html
NRMA (http://www.nrma.com.au/), RACV (http://www.racv.com.au/), RACQ (http://www.racq.com.au/), RAA (http://www.raa.net/), RAC (http://rac.com.au/Motoring/Roadside-Assistance.aspx), RACT (http://www.ract.com.au/) and AANT (http://www.aant.com.au/)
http://www.australiasbestcars.com.au/2011/default.htm
That's an interesting list. Top seller is somewhat predictable.
However, some of the cars that made the list were unexpected.
Regards, Rob.
Bigtom
18-01-2012, 04:48 PM
May not be the best handling, fuel economy very bad, difficult to park, no air bags (inside), loud and no airconditioner.
But BEEEEAAAUUUTTIIFFUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLL ........................
AstralTraveller
18-01-2012, 05:05 PM
They look even better with the sails unfurled. :P
glenc
16-02-2012, 06:46 AM
Report 2011, age of cars 10-11 years - reliability rating
http://www.anusedcar.com/index.php/tuv-report-year-age/2011-10-11/297
Report 2011, age of cars 4-5 years - reliability rating
http://www.anusedcar.com/index.php/tuv-report-year-age/2011-4-5/299
Toyota Corolla - reliability rating
http://www.anusedcar.com/index.php/tuv-model/toyota-corolla
Mazda 3 - reliability rating
http://www.anusedcar.com/index.php/tuv-model/mazda-3
JD Power dependability study
http://www.caradvice.com.au/159135/toyota-blitzes-jd-power-dependability-study/
Poita
16-02-2012, 02:10 PM
My 12 year old Verada (Magna with ugly faux wood bits) just keeps on being trouble free and I treat it like total crap. It is the most reliable thing I have ever owned, happily powers up any hills and doesn't use much fuel. Its quiet and fits all the kids in, and has a giant boot that fits my 10"SCT and all the fixins. I bought it 2nd hand in 2004, and it has been a real trooper.
It isn't an enviable car, but it does the job and has never failed me.
Poita
16-02-2012, 02:14 PM
Never would have picked that the Golf outsold the Beetle.
Or that my old Datsun Sunny made the list! Go the Datto!
glenc
05-03-2012, 05:53 AM
1 Toyota Corolla 1,020,000
2 Hyundai Elantra 1,010,000
3 Wuling Sunshine 943,000 (a Chinese minivan)
4 Ford Focus 919,000
5 Kia Rio 815,000
6 Ford Fiesta 781,000
7 VW Jetta 745,000
8 Toyota Camry 726,000
9 GM Cruze 691,000
10 VW Golf 648,000
11 VW Passat 565,000
12 Honda Civic 555,000
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45901663/ns/business-forbes_com/t/worlds-most-popular-cars-some-new-faces/#.T1O3nHkbry1
The USA’s biggest seller is the Ford F series truck.
Europe’s biggest seller is the VW Golf.
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