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Baron von Richthofen
17-12-2009, 05:07 AM
:ship1:Aliens and UFO's Sightings in Ancient History and Paintings
It looks like people were seeing UFO for a long time, may be they do exist
17-12-2009, 07:16 AM
Some interesting interpretations there. Thanks for posting.
17-12-2009, 09:10 AM
It's funny really. Trying to explain Unidentified Flying Objects by looking back in history at unidentified objects and drawings. :screwy:
17-12-2009, 10:32 AM
Just an observation here, but if we lived in a world today which had no knowledge or concept of alien life etc., would we interprete these ancient images completely different?
I think that sometimes the interpretation can be what the interpretor wants to see as well.
I remember reading the book and seeing the movie "Chariots of the Gods" and the some images I could make out and some that really had me puzzled.
17-12-2009, 05:48 PM
Interpretations is the key, you never know, maybe time travel in the future is possible and we as humans developed a way of going back and also realised that if we tried to change history consequenses may occur. :eyepop:
Although if being from another planet are more advanced maybe they worked out speed of light travel or whatever. Who really knows :confused2:
17-12-2009, 06:07 PM
:confuse3:... yeah... I always knew deep inside that there was something fishy about those tele tubbies...
17-12-2009, 06:11 PM
:jawdrop::rofl:That is the Tele Tubbies I think you have cracked a big secret that's why the were taken off the air
17-12-2009, 06:14 PM
Hey Marc how do you make your avatar change like that
17-12-2009, 06:18 PM
I was present when one image of three UFO's over the city in central Europe was taken, 40 years ago.... recently I found that image on one UFO website, and the event is even mentioned in one of Von Daniken's books..
Basically, it happened like this: One evening couple of my mates gathered on the observatory, and were bored to death.. so one of us decided to do something about it.
He went into a dark room and projected on the wall the piece of paper with three holes on it.. and he took a picture of this.
Then, he went to the window (from where the panorama of city was visible) and took another exposure on the same piece of film (with Exacta Varex, this 35mm camera was capable of multiple exposures without film advance).
The final photo looked VERY good and convincing... but that was it for the evening, the whole exercise was done to prove the concept :P
However, next evening another guy appeared, who did not have the knowledge of what went on the night before, and someone showed him the photo, saying it was real and taken the night before.. The other guy got very excited.. and he phoned the local papers telling them about UFO's above the city.. and when reporters arrived, everyone got scared and did not know what to do (we were 16 yo).. so they decided to go along and made up the whole story, which was published next day as a pretty big sensation :eyepop:
There was a lot of "soul-searching" for couple of days later, even the military was involved (because they did not see anything on their radars...). I do not have to tell you that after this article in local paper, there were hundreds of reports and sightings.. :lol:
The original negative was destroyed (thrown into the stove and burned).
And, since then, I am VERY suspicious and basically dismissive about those reports.. especially today when with the help of PhotoShop ANYTHING is possible..
17-12-2009, 06:27 PM
I would like to see the originals from the respective owners. I am sure that if the owners photographed and submitted the evidence and turned out to be false they would be in a lot of trouble, whereas anyone is free to doctor a photo. Who to say that people of the past had seen an illusion which i commonly see and interpet them as aliens.
The kind of illusions I see that could be mis-interpreted is occasionally looking at the sky a star appears to jump or disappear. I believe it is a trick from my eyes and possible atmospheric conditions. Without that knowledge I would have sworn it to be a UFO.
17-12-2009, 06:43 PM
You wicked man. Whats next, founding your own religion.
With a bit of planning you might be able to avoid any unpleasant martyrdom
17-12-2009, 07:13 PM
Could make millions ;)
17-12-2009, 07:56 PM
My problem was and is, I do not believe in religion ;)
18-12-2009, 07:24 AM
Makes you absolutely qualified
You can keep focused on the mission:thumbsup:
You need to tear down existing beliefs
Have something plausible to replace it with
And be ruthless enough to get other people to shed their blood.
The last bit is the hard part and only a few people manage it well
18-12-2009, 08:17 AM
:lol: That's a great story. Puts everything into perspective, how urban legends start and BS is inflated along the way. Good stuff! :thumbsup:
18-12-2009, 08:33 AM
Well. my problem is especially that last bit :-)
It seems the world will have to cope somehow without me :lol:
19-12-2009, 04:41 PM
Hey thats a really cool story of your's Bojan. Can I ask where you were at the time?
19-12-2009, 06:43 PM
Could you be more specific ? ;)
I was there, couple of metres from where and when the image was produced .... but I was not present when the reporters were called and the interview took place :D
19-12-2009, 08:08 PM
Where was the Observatory?
19-12-2009, 09:04 PM
It was (and still is) in Zagreb, Croatia.
20-12-2009, 09:55 AM
We are planning a trip on the adriatic (and Aegean) when my wife finishes up work in 2 years time. Saw some pics of Zargreb abd dubrovnic. They look great. Cant wait
20-12-2009, 10:18 AM
I still have "Chariots of the Gods" in my bookcase the first edition was published in 1969, I have the third print from 1973. I still remember the controversy created by his book at that time and the ridicule published about Von Daniken from the scientific community at that time.
All I can say is time will tell
21-12-2009, 03:52 PM
Maybe in the future we evolve into alien looking creature's, time travel back in time to 10,000 bc. and see ancient humans and they document it with paintings and stuff....:screwy:
Or they could just be children's play dolls and children's paintings...:lol:
It's all hocus pocus, stuff we are alone in this vast wilderness of space.
12-08-2012, 09:06 PM
Seems a bit like religious texts doesn't it?
Fostered by those with a vested interest
13-08-2012, 11:39 AM
Cue 'Yes Minister'
Sir Humphrey: Here are the candidates for the new Bishop of Canterbury.
Hacker: Tell me Humphrey - do any of these people actually believe in God?
Sir Humphrey: Oh good heavens NO minister!
13-08-2012, 12:04 PM
Bojan, you're just confabulating. But don't worry, it's just an effect of the neuralizer.
Someone fabricate a UFO sighting? As if...
(I did manufacture an image of Halley's comet once, though, out of cut-out cardboard and yewberries with the stalks still on. It nonetheless fooled some of my friends...)
13-08-2012, 12:16 PM
It took us 2 million year to get from rocks to swords - then 2000 years to get from swords to guns
Then 200 years to get from guns to missiles.
Oddly it has taken us only 100 years to get from radio to computers and 10 years from computers to super computers that can individually store the complete literary output of humanity before this century.
You're telling me we didn't derive the technology from somewhere else, whether by reverse engineering or direct instruction?
I keep taking the SD chip out of my camera and looking at it - in there, I can store about 30 hrs of video............ Thousands of photos.
My IPOD can store 120 gig of music, films and images. And show it to me on a screen 2 inches wide that can be magnified and still be clear..
I remember not long ago buying a huge hard drive that held 40 megabytes...... it came with a CD that held 3000 books including War and Peace the Q'ran and the Bible.
Governments do not tell us the whole story.
Things that arrive from space at plus light speeds - would they be visible? - nope because they'd be in a different dimension or something.
Thousands of things seen by thousands of people - they all say the craft are silent - so they don't interact with our reality at all in most cases.
If we see them or interact with them, it is because they want us to see them. Or they forgot to flip the cloak switch.
Horse used to kick up when they saw a car. They no longer do. We barely look up when someone says - hey a UFO - so it IS working
13-08-2012, 12:33 PM
Please tell me why they would want to come to an insignificant dot of Rock Out of Billions of other insignificant dots of rock in our galaxy:question::question::question :
13-08-2012, 01:16 PM
Best pizza in the galaxy! :P
13-08-2012, 01:31 PM
13-08-2012, 01:37 PM
So, you're saying that because computer advancements are impressive that the technology must originate from extraterrestrials? Nothing to do with the millions of scientists and engineers and hundreds of billions invested in R&D building on all of the work that has gone before? :shrug:
13-08-2012, 01:50 PM
PBF rules! I have one of his books. Non-stop laughter. :)
13-08-2012, 02:56 PM
Even more amazing is the implication that 1/ governments run the world, 2/ governments are smarter than scientists and 3/ governments can keep a secret. Perhaps on another planet ..... ???
13-08-2012, 03:02 PM
the universe is a huge we cant be alone
13-08-2012, 03:19 PM
No, it's only an angle - but it's also a possibility - as are a lot of things, like parallel universes and dimensional jumps.
We really don't know much about science really - we can't even counteract gravity.
13-08-2012, 04:03 PM
I guess that depends on the definition of "we" ... :P
Powered flight? Electro-magnetic levitation? Stable orbit? We can't turn off the fundamental forces of nature, but we can counteract them with technology, as far as our advancement currently allows.
One thing to keep in mind with computer advancement is that it's one of the few areas where each generational development (say 18 months to 2 years) is itself used as leverage to help develop the next generation, hence Moore's Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law). So, for an 18 mth cycle, over 20 years, a 40MB hard disk turns into 320GB without breaking a sweat.
14-08-2012, 05:37 PM
Technology is often driven by conflict , don't know where I read it but the saying was something along the lines of-
"Wars are inevitable without them man would still be living in a cave"
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