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bloodhound31
12-07-2007, 12:10 AM
I am thinking of getting either the f/6.3 focal reducer/field flattener from meade for my celestron nexstar 11 gps and piggybacking a ed80 for a guidescope with illuminated reticule eyepiece. It is on the bintel website. For a little bit more there is a f/3.3 ccd focal reducer.

I am using an unmodded canon eos 400d.

Which is the better item, and why?

Baz.

[1ponders]
12-07-2007, 12:36 AM
G'day Barry. For a DSLR you will want no more than the 6.3. The 3.3 is meant for small chipped CCDs like the DSI and similar. If you use the 3.3 with a DSLR you will get a very unflat field around the edges. If you really want to get more focal reduction with a DSLR then you might need to consider a Nexgen 0.5x reducer.

http://www.optcorp.com/product.aspx?pid=3531

But even this won't fully cover a DSLR chip.

[1ponders]
12-07-2007, 12:41 AM
If you want to fully cover the DSLR chip then you might need to consider somthing like Lumicon Easy Guider with FR http://www.astrocruise.com/geg.htm

Or just the focal reducer
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/457518-REG/Lumicon_LR1015_Giant_Focal_Reducer_ for.html

tempestwizz
12-07-2007, 11:55 AM
I would suggest not getting either, and imaging through the ed80 and using the Celestron as the guide-scope. I do this with my 8" Meade LX90 and ED80 and it seems to work well. With a well-balanced and aligned equatorial set-up, I can get up to about 5 minutes unguided. For guided, I use a DSI Pro in the meade as the guiding source and a Canon 20Da on the ED80. Guiding can then be manual via cross hairs on a laptop screen, or auto via Envisage (for Meade)
It's worth spending time on the piggy-back mounting arrangement to get the ED80 as close to the main OTA as possible so that 3d balancing is achievable. Many of my earlier problems arose from poor balance.

bloodhound31
12-07-2007, 01:31 PM
Thanks guys. Yes, I do intend on using the C11 as a guide scope and imaging thru the soon-to-be-purchased ED80. Until then, I want to put the C11 to the test and try to see what I can get out of it.

I do not think it justice that a ten thousand dollar scope should be wasted as a guidescope alone while an ED80 worth 600 dollars beats it in image quality.

I'm just trying to get the most out of my existing scope as well.

So far, I am not terribly impressed with the images coming from it.:doh:

Baz.

Gama
16-07-2007, 06:24 PM
This is OK for certain objects, but when you need resolving power and a little more image size, then you cant help but use the main scope.

Plus your able to go fainter to gather the harder to see objects.

Theo