Skysafari 4 Pro vs Plus

[Mokusatsu]

So Pro has a bigger object database, high resolution moon map and high resolution images of objects.

Of course we all want bigger and better, don't we, but in practice is Pro really worth the money for an amateur?

I want to use it as a map to find objects, and control my scope, a 12" goto dob. It's all well and good to have a database that includes objects below the light grasp of amateur scopes under dark skies, but I think Plus might already have about as much stuff in it as any amateur could hope to see.

Am I right, or should I just go with bigger and better, per instinct? ;)

[julianh72]

There's a detailed comparison between versions here for Android:
http://skysafariastronomy.com/products/skysafari_android/versions.html
and here for iOS:
http://skysafariastronomy.com/products/skysafari/versions.html

Personally, I can't see any "must-have" features missing from the Plus version, so that is what I went with. I figure there are more than enough objects in the Plus database to keep me and my 200 mm scope satisfied for a long time. Plus has the telescope interface built-in, so I figure there's not a huge amount of value in being able to "Go-To" an object that my telescope can't see or image.

(Even if I started working my way through the 31,586 DSOs in the Plus version at the rate of 10 a night, that would take me about 10 years - not allowing for any cloudy nights! When I run out of DSOs, I can start ticking off the 2,637,791 catalogued stars at the rate of 100 a night for another 72 years of observing.)

Seriously though, having access to the "Complete General Catalog of Variable Stars" and "Complete Washington Double Star Catalog" in the Pro version might be a "plus", if that's your passion, but there are plenty of variables and doubles catalogued in Plus.

The Hi-Res images and Moon map in Plus are "nice-to-have", but this imagery is available on-line anyway.

Be aware that the developers don't offer an upgrade path, so if you think "buyer's remorse" might ever be an issue, go for the Pro version.

[julianh72]

Of course, on a "DSOs per Dollar" assessment, Pro is a clear winner:

Basic: 222 DSOs for $2.99 = 1.35 cents per DSO (74 DSOs per dollar)
Plus: 31,586 DSOs for $14.99 = 0.5 cents per DSO (2,100 DSOs per dollar)
Pro: 743,500 DSOs for $39.99 = 0.005 cents per DSO (18,500 DSOs per dollar)

:thumbsup:

[Mokusatsu]

I think I'll just go with Plus. Apart from anything else, the lack of an upgrade path extends to versions of Plus and Pro as well. Read any online review of pro and there in the comments section is somebody grumbling about the money they sank on Skysafari 3 Pro with no upgrade path.

Maybe 5 will be out soon anyway. ;)

Travis

[Zubenel]

Yer , I just bought the SS4 plus version and vacillated a bit on the differences between 4 and pro versions. The size of the Pro version was a put off @ 900+ Mb. I my case I'll be paralleling up with an Argo so the size of the accessible DSO catalogue won't be an issue. Cheers Wes

[Mokusatsu]

Breaking news:

Skysafari 5 was just released. Only the iOS Pro version is out, and it is currently on promotion, cheaper than SS4P.

Android versions are coming soon, as well as Plus and Basic versions.

[Zubenel]

Looks like they are only releasing for IPhone , not Ipad:( 👎🏻cheers Zubenel

[xstream]

Ummm it's for all Apple platforms.
D/loaded and it's magic. Big :thumbsup: from me

[Amaranthus]

I have SS 4 Pro, which is a fantastic iDevice planetarium software. However, looking at the new features offered in v5, it just doesn't seem worth me upgrading. It's a personal call, I guess.

[Zubenel]

Yer, Just bought 4 plus but it was advertised on both iphone and ipad. Which I have loaded on both devices and works very well. I would not spend $30 on the upgrade for just one type of device. Cheers

[Mokusatsu]

SS5 Plus is out now for iOS too (not just iPhone). Also half price.

I intend to get Pro for my Android device when it comes out if it comes out at half price, but Plus is cheap enough now that I might get it on the iPad too (but not Pro, because unlike Android which has heaps of room due to the SD card, my iPad can't take it.)

[luka]

For anyone interested, SS5 (the standard version, not pro or plus) is free today (IOS only at the moment).
I have not checked myself but it was suggested that the in-app purchases are free as well today.
See here (https://itunes.apple.com/app/id1055698767)

[rockinspace]

The extra depth of Pro is definitely handy to confirm the location of very faint galaxies. It doesn't make the galaxy any more visible of course, but it does confirm you are on the spot.

[AG Hybrid]

I believe the Pro version can be used to connect to your mounts or encoders as long as you have the right receivers. However, the plus might be able to do that too? I have the Pro version and connect my to my scopes encoders via a wireless receiver(Nexus). Works great.

[OffGrid]

I downloaded SkySafari Pro 5 a couple of weeks ago in readiness for the new Bintel 10" Dob I picked up last Saturday.
In a word ( for app and photon bucket) ....... Stellar :):):)

[julianh72]

Yes, Plus has the telescope control tools, so you don't need Pro for that functionality. The only reason for going to Pro that I can see is for the bigger database etc.

[ChrisV]

I use plus. Controls my telescope (CG5) through blue tooth.

[ADRIAN]

Has anyone here connected Sky Safari to a telescope
Over wifi-serial or Bluetooth to serial and if so how well
Does it work?

[Zubenel]

I must admit , when SS Pro 5 came along I was a bit miffed as I had just shelled out on 4 plus but with my purchase of Obsession #306 20" classic and the amazing upgrade with full go to and tracking via Stella-cat (amongst other enhancements) by none other than Mr Peter Read of SDM telescopes, I quickly realised that the larger data base would become useful so I'm now using SkySafari 5 Pro. The sequence was . 2 star alignment from the Argonavis. Pick an object and track .With the SkyFi connected to the servocat , I found the Local area net work on the iPad and later IPhone . Hit connect in SS while on the same object in the Argo and viola , it was connected. Being a rather large scope ensure the step ladder is well away before selecting an object and hitting go to 👍🏻P.S I haven't yet figured out how to connect the Pc /laptop via ASCOM protocol so I can run my Favourite planetarium program that I have been using for the last 14 years in version or another . That being Earth Centered Universe. The clouds need to disappear !!):sadeyes::sadeyes:

[poncho]

Anyone have an idea when SS 5 coming out for android??

[Camelopardalis]

According to a post on "the other side", early June.

[poncho]

Thanks!:thumbsup:

[ChrisV]

I'm using SS4 plus (android). Does anyone know what changes /improvements there will be with SS5 ?

[julianh72]

This page shows what is new in SS5 for iOS - presumably SS5 for Android will have the same additional features.
http://skysafariastronomy.com/skysafari-5-professional-telescope-astronomy-software.html

It seems to me to be only minor enhancements, nothing really revolutionary or "must-have" for my needs.

[Camelopardalis]

I think (but don't quote me on it) that on iOS there were are number of interface changes, that probably wouldn't apply to the Android version.

Other nice touches are touchable clocks on the object info pages, so you can go to astronomical darkness or object transit or opposition, or whatever is relevant. At least, those are what I use the most...

I'd agree, nice touches but nothing overly revolutionary.

[ChrisV]

I was hoping for compatibility with skyq since they seem to be working with celestron. I like the 'no hand controller' with skyq but i hate skyportal.